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Do animals worry?

David Ofungi, London
  • Dogs worry sheep.

    Alan Russell, Glossop, UK
  • Animals do worry and can get ulcers. Ask any veterinarian. This happens mainly to pets who are poorly taken care of by their owners. They experience stress, can die of heart attacks, and the like. In America they now prescribe Prozac for dogs. There are also psychiatrists for pets. An acquaintance of mine had a cockatoo and he paid an avian behaviorist a large sum of money for advice because the bird was ripping its feathers out when the owner was away at work.

    Daniel Morgan, Boston US
  • If by "worry" you mean "exhibit anxiety" then yes, I'd say so. I've known lots of dogs who acted worried when, say, a young family member wandered off at the beach. Also we had a cat who'd appear to "count" us in & out of the car, and sit for a while watching if the driver dropped off passengers then drove off again. She only did this if the driver was a family member. Many pets are known to wait patiently near front doors or in windows for their owners' return, that looks like worrying to me!

    Carla, Crewe, UK
  • I do.

    Towser, Scotland
  • My dog seems to worry if he cannot find his doggy comanion in the house and will search like Lassie until he finds our other dog Mac

    Fiona, Aberdeen, UK
  • I had a cat who had been cruelly treated as a kitten. Although she came to me at 6 months old and was loved and always treated well, she "worried" for the next 15 years. She displayed every symptom of anxiety and never seemed able to filter out non-threatening stimuli, such as the telephone ringing, from something that may harm her. If I went on holiday she would (according to those who looked after her) appear to be deeply depressed and would seem to experience nightmares for a few weeks after my return and would need reassurance from me upon waking. One the whole - I would say she "worried"!

    Pennie Goodman, Nottingham England
  • You should see my cat when I threaten to put the fire off!

    Kath Thompson, Sheffield England
  • People, especially animal lovers, constantly and mistakenly attribute human emotions to what are effectively walking food parcels. I blame the myriad childrens' programmes on television that are chock full of talking animals. I suspect JCB's will attract similarly misguided attributes, thanks to Bob the Builder.

    Vince Baughan, London
  • Certainly I think animals can worry. The more intelligent they are, the more they worry. Any dog or cat owner knows the anxiety that comes into their pet`s eyes when they leave for work, or for a trip. In the case of farm animals, the bond between mother and calf or lamb is apparent. And the bull clearly worries that some other male will infringe upon his territory. If you choose to argue that they are "walking food parcels" or just following biological imperatives, I repectfully draw your attention to the fact that we are but sacks of meat and bone, and follow the same impulses, brought about by the same chemicals, and the same fight or flight responses. We have the fortune of being at the top of the food chain (in most cases) and expressing our reactions and emotions a bit more eloquently. But we're worried animals as well.

    Hank Marvin, Philadelphia, PA USA
  • Worry can be defined as unfounded fear. Unfounded fear is irrational by definition. Therefore, the notion that animals worry is completely in accordance with the tradtional view of them as creatures incapable of reason. In fact, it stands to reason (ours!) that they should worry more than humans.

    Faye Davies, London
  • Are we not animals, and do we not worry!

    Paul , Newcastle UK
  • Having an acute sense of danger is not worry . Worry brings fear and if an animal was scared stiff it could not run away and save itself. So NO, animals do not worry, they all enjoy life. Mostly The old and the lame get caught and then get eaten. That is natures way and it stops the old and injured from suffering. What a great system a God has designed. The young and healthy escape and multiply and dance to the melodies of their souls in extreme bliss.

    Michael Levy, Fort Lauderdale, USA
  • My childhood cat used to bite his claws...

    Jane Roberts, Bournemouth, UK
  • Cats and dogs certainly experience anxiety and fear. However, 'worry' presupposes a capacity to reflect on one's own beliefs. Although cats and dogs may harbour beliefs, there is no evidence that they are capable of self-conscious reflection on those beliefs. Happily then, our pets are spared the experience of worry.

    Mark Bennett, Westmuir Angus
  • They worry me.

    Adrian Ainsworth, Waddon UK
  • My poodle is certainly heading for a nervous breakdown if he doesn't stop freaking out every time we walk out the door

    Paul E, Bolivia
  • Interesting that Michael Levy requires a God to design a system whereby he the lame get caught and then get eaten. Thats evolution there mate, catch up.

    Pete Nightingale, Reading UK
  • Of course they worry and feel anxiety. Why are we still asking if animals can feel pain, stress, etc... in 2007? And why do we suppose it's only the human animal that can feel anything at all? In fact, sometimes, I really believe some species have more in the way of emotions than some of our own kind. The fool that called other animals 'walking food parcels' sounds a case in point

    Carol, Manchester, UK
  • Sometimes - more than humans...

    Miroslav Kotsev, Sofia, Bulgaria
  • I have a comment. Everyone in this board who is cocnerned about animal emotions is only taking into account domestic pets. How about cattle that are slaughtered, chicken stuffed in coops to make them fat, chicken and turkeys whose beaks ate clipped so that they cannot peck food but made to gobble large amounts of feed contrary to they way nature has designed them; pigs whose teeth are sawed off for the same reason; pigs beaten with sticks to swell their bodies prior to selling; forcing water through their mouths to make them bloat before selling; calves that are tied in small spaces without letting them move to make veal? Can you imagine how their emotions work when these tortures are inflicted on them?

    Terence D Fernando, Cherry Hill, New Jersey, USA
  • I believe so. Several months ago I took a nasty fall. I was in bed for a week, suffering excruciating pain. My two cats (who are not overly affectionate) never left my side. They would curl up next to me and look at me with the saddest eyes I'd ever seen. They knew something was very wrong with their human. If that's not the physical incarnation of "worry" then I'm not sure what is.

    Jamie, Columbus, Ohio, USA
  • Anybody who has spent any time with animals can see they have a whole range of emotions, and how they react to them in a different extent. They can dream, have an imagination and can make decisions. They will worry and they will pine. I don't understand how people can be blind to this, especially when it comes to animal testing and people who believe in creationism. Less said about people who deliberately ignore their pets' feelings

    Robert Wells, Newcastle, UK
  • Vince Baughan: "People,especially animal lovers, constantly and mistakenly attribute human emotions to what are effectively walking food parcels." Vince, we're taling about emotions. Humans have emotions nad animals clearly have emotions. You can't say that animals don't have 'human' emotions and by that conclude they have no emotions, just instincts. By the same token, I could argue that humans don't have emotions either, just instincts. You're splitting hairs. I've kept cats all my life, have known 16 or so by now, for anything up to 19 years at a time. Food is the basic need. After that security from harm (which is part of a component of feeling and expressing 'love'. Once our hunger is appeased, we express love. Cats likewise, when well fed and cared for, express closeness and affection for their fellow cats and humans, even wit at times. Read Msslow. The cold idea of animals as would be tin-openers is wrong and old-fashioned.

    Clare, Highgate, London
  • I have adopted by a street cat that was constantly chased by dogs. When he sleeps, very deeply, he cries out in distress, and tears come from his eyes. When he wakes and realizes he is safe in the house he acts very grateful. Yes, I think that he worries and doesn't want to go back to his days of living on the street.

    J. B., Cleveland, USA
  • My Dog paced round the house looking for my Mother for weeks after she died. I'm not sure if he "worried" as such - he wasn't distressed - but he was certainly confused to find that someone he was used to having around was now missing. I'm not sure that the two are the same thing.

    Rachel, Woking
  • It's not anthropomorphic to believe that animals experience emotions such as worry and animal behavior scientists can back that up with their research in the field. What is anthropomorphic is to assume that animals will always respond to circumstances in the same way as humans. The more animal behavior scientists learn about the variety of emotions experienced by animals, the more I believe humans have an ethical obligation to treat animals humanely, whether in the wild or in laboratories, on farms or in people's homes.

    Andrea, Washington, DC USA
  • Good heavens, yes, they worry. I had a samoyed and now a sheltie who had separation anxiety before they came to me. They worry like crazy. We humans think that we are so superior to the animal world. We aren't - we just aren't. Animals fight for a reason, be it territorial, for food, in defense. Not so with humans. Right now we are killing many people in Iraq, for what reason? So that a handful of "people" from America can get even wealthier. Animals weep, they get angry - the meds that we use often are helpful to them. Many humans, many many, abuse pets whom they have domesticated. We are superior? They end up getting anxiety disorders and we get mad at them. Humans are superior? I think not. Animals have the whole range of feelings. We think that they are not as smart as us. How do we know that they are not communicating as articulately as we are?

    Debs, Rockford, USA
  • Having been a squirrel in a previous life, I can affirm that animals do indeed worry.

    Jenn, Yonkers, USA
  • "effectively walking food parcels" Funniest line in this blog. I'm still trying to stop laughing. Must bring that up when people start cooing about their pets. I am a pet/animal lover, although I'm a hypocrite as I eat meat but come on that is a funny line. How about "effective excrement producers"? No, that first line was funnier.

    Syman, Brooklyn, USA
  • I had a dog that was a devoted pet. I would once or twice a year go away for several months (I had a house sitter come in to take care of the house and the dog). Each time after the first, the dog would become clearly anxious when it saw me packing my bag and doing other things that indicated I was about to leave. It understood the situation and what was going to happen very well.

    Hal, Tucson, Arizona, USA
  • HEAR HEAR to Terence D Fernando and Andrea of the USA! Thank you for diverting the question toward something constructive. We must beware of anthropomorphisation in observing the behaviour of animals but we also should never set ourselves too far apart from them for we only rule the world by our own definition. Worry is fear and all animals need it to survive but I believe all animals can feel positive emotions when whatever their fears are diminished, whatever they may be. For us all to relate stories of our domestic pets and the indications they have given us that they do indeed experience emotions is all very well. But remember: if there was more meat on a cat and if a dog's flesh was tastier and more tender, we'd be putting them through the same disgusting procedures to turn them into production facilities. We all need to take more note of where the produce we consume comes from if we are reaching this level of understanding of life on this fine planet. Everything just arrives in our supermarket packaged and appetising - what do we know about how that came to be? I'm not a vegetarian and I don't believe that it is intrinsically wrong to eat meat because it occurs naturally and always has but not in the way or on the scale it does now in the West. The environmental impact of eating so much meat is something we, as the most intelligent animals, should be worrying about also. Worry, get educated, then act!

    Lewie, Sydney, Australia
  • Consciousness is not the sole preserve of humans. Our friends in the animal kingdom experience suffering and well being, albeit in a less dynamic form.

    James, Farnham, England
  • Vince Baughan seems to forget that to many animals, he too is a 'walking food parcel'. We're not the fastest animals, we're not the strongest animals, we're not the most skilled (we can't fly, we can't use sonar, we swim horribly). As of this moment, we've out-thought other animals for a few thousand years. There is however no guarantee that this will last forever. I'd suggest Vince try some Quorn and put some seed out for the birds, just for insurance.

    edward, Cambridge, UK
  • If we say animals show signs of anxiety, distress and preoccupation about something threatening, then I'd say they are capable of that. It's separate from observing sensible reactions when a threat is happening in that moment. It's an observable change in behaviour that can be related to what seems to be an unresolved threat. More on this later but first I think it's also worth recognising that we often see what we want to see and miss what we don't want to acknowledge. For instance, people sometimes over-ascribe their own emotions onto animals (and other people!) and other people seem to work quite hard at keeping human and non-human capacities separate, resisting the idea that non-humans can have quite complex behavioural reactions just like us human beans. Anyone spending a lot of time with animals can see they exhibit fear and the hyper-alertness we call worry and change their behaviour. For instance, when they feel threatened, cats can stop their usual meticulous grooming and can have extreme digestive problems even when the source of the threat isn't around (other cats, new boyfriend etc). The fact that this stops when the threat is resolved or eliminated strongly suggests a connection to that source and an ongoing preoccupation between encounters with it. That sounds a lot like worry doesn't it? I think it's useful and interesting to look at reactions on their merits, without trying to over-anthropormorphise or be overly resistant just because of "otherness" and wanting humans to be somehow superior.

    Caitlin McKiernan, Walthamstow, London England
  • Yes, but not about the mortgage.

    Hugo, Coventry, UK
  • Worry? The sheep in Wales are terrified.

    Al Miller, Rochdale, UK
  • Hi, I'm a Labrador Retriever, and I can tell you that we animals worry - without a doubt. Some of us worry more than others. I am friends with a Pomeranian who has had several nervous breakdowns. He often worries himself into a tizz while his owner is at work. All the best, Rufus

    Rufus, London, UK
  • Hi, I'm a Labrador Retriever, and I can tell you that we animals worry - without a doubt. Some of us worry more than others. I am friends with a Pomeranian who has had several nervous breakdowns. He often worries himself into a tizzy while his owner is at work. All the best, Rufus

    Rufus, London, UK
  • Of course animals worry. How do I know this? They exhibit the same symptoms of stress that humans do, such as loss of appetite,withdrawal from company and so on. I had to place my dog in boarding kennels once, for five days. For the first two days, she refused to eat or drink only starting to drink again on the third day. She refused food for the entirety of the stay. According to the kennel staff she curled up in a corner refusing any contact with them. I honestly believe she would have starved herself to death eventually. When I collected her, relief was writ large in her every expression. She 'talked' by means of whines and cries all the way home. I think she was telling me what a terrible experience she'd had. Needless to say, I never kennelled her again.

    Ursula Griffin, Turriff, UK
  • "Walking Food Parcels" What? When was the last time you eat a tiger, eh?

    Chris, London
  • My Dad's Girlfriend has a Yorkshire Terrier, which they brought round to my Dad's house when she was stopping over. When they went out to dances, or whatever, leaving their bags on the bed in order to go back to her house later, the dog would wait next to their bags. I thought at the time that he was worried that they might go back home without him, and that he was trying to say "Please don't forget the dog." Later though, I realised one of the bags contained his little doggy treats. I took the bag out of their bedroom, then he started hanging around me all of the time. So I put it back in there.

    Dominic, Canterbury UK
  • Actually I dont think that animals feel pain or stress.. So no, they don't worry. For example, my turtles always get crazy when i turn on the light every morning, but they always get scared of me =(.

    Jonathan, Colima, Mexico
  • Oh good grief, can you not see that Vince was having a laugh, and very funny too. He goes on to presume the reasons we love animals are because of the TV programs on which they talk, then he compares that to 'Bob the Builder' (which has talking trucks and diggers, called JCBs in the UK) and suggests we might start caring for them in the same way too. Genius. And none of you got it? Ah well. Esra

    Esra, Ovraby, Sweden
  • Heaven forfend that we should sweep away anthropomorphism! At a stroke, we would abolish a great corpus of fables throughout all the cultures, extant and defunct, of the world - all of which were and are valuable tools for conveying moral lessons as well as modes of rich and imaginative story-telling. This here bunny is worried!

    Paul Thompson, Perth Scotland
  • I guess Vince Baughan is an animal hater...

    Jeffery Wood, Lake City, Florida, USA
  • My cat, Hans, who weighs at least 7 kg, worries and worries and worries that he won't get fed at the crack of dawn!

    Léonie Avery, Darmstadt Germany


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